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Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:35 am

Hi Guys,

yesterday morning I started a new char with a new PSN-ID for my last challange in DS: SL1 run-through (without item duping)

To make it short: I DID IT!! :D 8-)

At least I died 10 times:
- 1x Old Hero (as I started this stupid move, I realized that I will die :shock: )
- 1x Flamelurker (he surprised and got me with a backwards jump)
- 1x NPC BP Ostrava (first time ever that I died there :oops: )
- 1x 1-2 Blue Eye Knight shortly before Tower Knight, can't explain to myself how this could happen...
- 6x 4-2 .... silly... stupid... needless... whatever you want to say: YES.... normally I survive there without getting in trouble, but yesterday it seems that the enemies had an agreement to pay all back what I caused to them in the past :cry:

And last but not least:
As I fighted and defeated the Old One I was so in action that I don't think about as Maiden in black appears and instantly killed her... just to realize that I don't get the "Uniter of the world" trophy if I choose the bad end.... :evil: :cry:

created and used weapons:
- wooden catalyst
- short bow +10
- crescent Flachion +4
- dragon long sword +5 (two handed)
- moon winged spear +5 (two handed)
- Leather Armor (chest, arms, legs)
- Leather shield

So, I think all things are done for me in DS... apart from SL1 NG+ run 8-)

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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby uhkam » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:25 am

Good job! Now do the same thing in NG+ /jk

Seriously, that must've been really hard. Especially 4-2 and 5-3
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Lilbrudder30 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 am

Wow very cool. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Light » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:15 am

If you complete NG+ at SL1 then i will award you with the prestigious "SL1 NG+ medal"
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby iGBx » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:10 am

Well played Atlan_
Did you see or summon any blues along your adventure ?

@uhkam, 5-3 was probably very easy for him with a short bow +10.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby uhkam » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:17 am

iGBx wrote:Well played Atlan_
Did you see or summon any blues along your adventure ?

@uhkam, 5-3 was probably very easy for him with a short bow +10.

Well that ^^; Didn't remember that... Well, at least 4-2
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:24 am

Hey thanks guys,

yesterday I really thought about an SL1 NG+ run... :)
...and already started & completed 1-1 on NG+, but 1-1 is not a real challange.

At the moment I really don't think to do that...

My SL 38 is NG++ and I remember how hard it was at beginning of 4-1 (on pure black world tendency with Black Phantom Satsuki + Skeleton). I died around 6 times and most blues died instantly after summoning. At the end a blue wizard helped me out and hitted him several times with his Homing Soul Arrow, while I protected him and attacked Satsuki melee.

So I can only recommend to all who wants to have a real challange besides PvP to start a SL1 run on DS.
It was really funny.

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@iGBx:
No, I never summond a blue on my run and saw only one time at beginning of 4-1 a blue sign.
But I used Brior at Penetrator as support, I don't faced him 1vs1.
5-3 was easy, yes, but I killed Garl Vinland melee. :)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby iGBx » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:27 am

LOL, good for you. I would have just sniped the Maiden :oops:
the lowest sl i completed the playthrough on was 20, and that was a magician... just levelled up vit & mag.
i wanna try a sl1 run soon ;)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:30 am

This will be a lot of fun for you.
Tell me when you start your run!
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:47 am

Not done that - well done - may try it with my last toon slot.
Done NG+1 to +5 at SL 16 tho - hugely entertaining.
Getting through a few Rambo Blues tho - lol.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:10 am

Yeah, Blues on such a low SL don't really expect a NG+ game.
But if I get summond on such a SL, I don't really expect it, too. But I recognize it really fast regarding to my damage output.

So, Clarkie & iGBx:
Yesterday I had 2 hours time before I went to soccer and decided to proceed with my SL1 in NG+.
I just want to test if I could really manage it or if I have to surrender. :oops:
So at the moment I have completed 1-1, 1-2, 4-1 and 4-2, this time without a death till now :P

Maybe we will see us on our SL1 run... :truce:

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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:40 am

As a general rule. i usually level up my weapons and gear, an leave my physical stats for later.
Seems to hold good for DS too.
All those hours down the gym when you just needed credit at the sword and board shop ;)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:49 am

Well you inspired me to try an SL1 run in NG and NG+1.
I'm halfway thru NG and died once - very annoyed about it too!
Been very careful to collect the Darkmoon from the CL and get the Falc to +3 asap.
Fighting the 4.1 skeles with a stock rapier was pretty intense :)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:58 am

Hey, great to hear about your run. At the moment I stuck in 1.4 on NG+.
False King killed me twice and I died several times on the way to him...

But I never used an Eyestone to revive. Everytime I died I continued in soul form.
So maybe, I really don't know if I manage NG+ without a blue.

All other levels are no problem, but 1.4 is and Maneater will be a ultimate challange ;-)

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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby kiaserbug » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:27 pm

This thread has inspired me to try taking a low level toon throught he game. I've taken a knight through most of the game so far ... I know ... sl4 isn't sl1. But so far it isn't as punishing as I thought it would be. Only died to lava so far (dragon longsword is my best friend!)... but expect to get my butt handed to me a couple of times in 1-3 or 1-4. Thanks for the stories!
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:04 pm

It's the lack of a shield with 100% damage reduction that really gets ya....
And the lack of a decent bow....
And that you cannot pick anything up heavier than a feather...
And the 1 spell slot...
And...

Well you get the picture! ;)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby kiaserbug » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:04 pm

Clarkie13D wrote:It's the lack of a shield with 100% damage reduction that really gets ya....
And the lack of a decent bow....
And that you cannot pick anything up heavier than a feather...
And the 1 spell slot...
And...

Well you get the picture! ;)



What a difference a little strength makes! Kite shield, compound short bow, longsword ... I see your point. Time to "man up" and give it a whirl. To be honest, the basic stats for the knight allow for great versatility ... decent weapons plus a spell slot and one miracle. Wish me luck, and maybee you'll see my blue somewhere.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Wutai » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:11 am

I really didn't miss having a shield when I did my run.
And since I killed Maiden Astraea in NG+ with a Sticky Short Bow +3 while in hyper mode, I'd say that that bow works well enough.
As for the one spell slot, I just switched between soul ray and flame toss / fire spray depending on the world.
And since you can't use anything heavier than a feather, it shouldn't matter that you can't carry it. ;)

But yeah, that's the point of a sl1 challenge; to make you think in new ways and get better at the game because the odds are against you.
It took me 19 tries to kill Allant in ng+ :evil: , but he hasn't been as challenging to my other characters ever since. Something about learning to dodge every attack and not getting hit at all really improved my skill.

Also, once you can, I advise getting a Moon Falchion +5 to replace the Crescent Falchion +5; the damage increase is significant.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Atlan_USO » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:56 am

@kiaserbug:

I think a SL4 run is also a great project.
I only choose an SL1 run because this is the unlitmate lowest char you can have. But I think this is only for the scoring board ;)
If you start and beat Demon Souls on SL4 in NG and NG+, you did also an average job!

@Wutai:
Congratulation that you managed DS on NG+ as SL1.
I used a Moon winged spear +5 for my run in NG and the part of NG+ now and a crescent flachion +4.
Works also good, but I agree that a Moon falchion +5 would be better :)
I also agree that a shield went to be useless in NG+...

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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:14 am

Wutai wrote:I really didn't miss having a shield when I did my run.
And since I killed Maiden Astraea in NG+ with a Sticky Short Bow +3 while in hyper mode, I'd say that that bow works well enough.
As for the one spell slot, I just switched between soul ray and flame toss / fire spray depending on the world.
And since you can't use anything heavier than a feather, it shouldn't matter that you can't carry it. ;)

But yeah, that's the point of a sl1 challenge; to make you think in new ways and get better at the game because the odds are against you.
It took me 19 tries to kill Allant in ng+ :evil: , but he hasn't been as challenging to my other characters ever since. Something about learning to dodge every attack and not getting hit at all really improved my skill.

Also, once you can, I advise getting a Moon Falchion +5 to replace the Crescent Falchion +5; the damage increase is significant.

I never went sticky with my short bow, i went to +10 figuring there was no Dex to modify the sticky sufficiently.
Maybe a bad call.
That's interesting about the Falc - I have the +1 Moon Short sword from 3.2 so may upgrade that, but i've just managed to get a Dragon Short sword that at least stuns the Oppo to get a 2nd swipe in.
Having always played Sword and Board, i find I'm goin Rambo with 2H attacks much more often - managed my easiest fight ever against the Old Monk that way.
I've used "cheap" tactics too - at SL 1 - NOTHING is off limits.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby kiaserbug » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:08 am

Finished sl1 runthrough last night. Died lots, used lots of poison and lots of arrows. Used a dragon short sword and sticky short bow +5. Buckler +10 worked ok for most of the game, even against gargoyles ... but I can see that ng+ will make it mostly useless as the dreglings in 1-1 drain alot of stamina. I expect that the knights (and everything else) simply break your stamina. It was fun, I think I'll keep this toon and play around in ng+ for a while. If anyone wants to co-op message me with psn id kiaserbug. :D
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:22 am

Well done fella. :)
Ive got 1.3 and 1.4 left to do in SL 1, NG+1 - it's been hard - and great fun!
Discovered Light arrow works well - who'd a thunk it?
And as has been said, you may as well go 2H.
Penetrator and Allant tonight, I hope Biorr is feeling tasty!
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby kiaserbug » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:25 pm

Just a quick question to all the sl 1 players out there ... what happens when you lose during a red eye stone duel?
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby donaldstoney » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:40 pm

kiaserbug wrote:Just a quick question to all the sl 1 players out there ... what happens when you lose during a red eye stone duel?


You can do a SL0 run-through then kb :)
Good luck on NG+, been in there at SL10 a couple of times... the horror, the horror... :shock:
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:08 pm

kiaserbug wrote:Just a quick question to all the sl 1 players out there ... what happens when you lose during a red eye stone duel?

Lol, I CAN tell you that Allant's SS has zero effect on your SL. :shock:
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:46 pm

Yay!
Finished NG and NG+1 at SL1, and boy am i glad to level up.
Not ashamed to say, i died nearly 30 times at Allant, could not make the dead zone plan work, tried warding with the Ring on, tried everything.
Eventually, a combo of Soul Ray, Poison, and 2H my pathetic short sword making 2 HITS ONLY did the job. Trying to get 3 hits in just got me killed, in truth, I beat him with patience.
After dying 3 times in the whole of NG, NG+1 was significantly more challenging.
Watching my +10 short bow do damage in the teens was soul destroying.... (pun intended)
best bit?
I saw a couple of Noob blue signs, and against better judgement, summoned them for their 1st online sessions. (I was LONELY!) I msg both guys to apologise for the 1HKO's they had in my NG+1 - but i did smile at these little Rambos!

Big thx to Donald who chipped up a couple times to keep me company but let me tackle the Bosses. :)
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby kiaserbug » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:27 pm

Congrats on the NG+ run! :theman:
I've been trying ng+ with my sl1 toon and been killed at least 8 times by the tower knight. I don't know whats going on, but it seems as if my thief ring doesn't work. Everybody sees me from a mile away and the archers are connecting from across the courtyard, staggering me enough to get hit by a lance ray. And anything I don't immediately kill runs off to some place where they have friends to act as backup. I've also summoned a few blues, and immediately messaged them about being in ng ... they've all white stoned out.
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Gamezfan » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:39 pm

Man, i gotta try this out... but then i will go BADASS-mode - meaning no cheap tactics or help, from NPCs and Blues alike :)

Wish me luck guys... im gonna need it...
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby Clarkie13D » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:20 am

kiaserbug wrote:Congrats on the NG+ run! :theman:
I've been trying ng+ with my sl1 toon and been killed at least 8 times by the tower knight. I don't know whats going on, but it seems as if my thief ring doesn't work. Everybody sees me from a mile away and the archers are connecting from across the courtyard, staggering me enough to get hit by a lance ray. And anything I don't immediately kill runs off to some place where they have friends to act as backup. I've also summoned a few blues, and immediately messaged them about being in ng ... they've all white stoned out.


Well, i certainly recommend taking the archers out 1st?
I had to use soul ray AND an R2 attack to kill each one (if i recall correctly) taking care not to drop them into the coutyard alive.
After that, i got adjacent to the TK, then soul ray on his ankle, waited for the ground pound and went in with the Cresc Falc.
For NG+1 I had Don take the archers out for me while i tackled the TK, I accidentally left a few archers alive and it was VERY much harder, so suggest you take those boys out before anything else?

And good luck Gamezfan - you'll need some :)
It's a very lonely run, I had one BP in 2.1 i think, he looked de-levelled so i prepared for the worst but he white stoned out after neglecting to take the shortcut up the elevator and not finding me early in the level. Phew!
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Re: Got my Key for joining the "SL1 run-through Group"

Postby paha_kuukkeli » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:12 pm

Alright, I finished my SL 1 NG couple of days ago. There weren't any huge problems that weren't solvable by changing tactics but anyways here's my take on the hardest spots:

- Dragon God, with SL 1 you can't make a single error because even in body form he one shots you. Died probably 3 times.

- Old Monk (+ the stairway leading to him), I died few times to BP Mind Flayers when I tried to kill them with Soul Ray but after switching to Flame Toss they were quite easy. Old Monk also killed me twice as I tried to be too defensive (blocking just doesn't work with SL 1 because of low stamina) but after 2-handing my +5 Crescent Falchion he died on the first try.

- Leechmonger, most difficult boss for me I guess. Initially I went all the way down and eventually he always hit me with the leeches before my Fire Spray killed him. Finally I just accidentally fell from the walkway to a plank that happened to be a perfect spot to kill him. I had enough room to dodge his throws and he was close enough for me to Spray him. He should be easy from now on as I know the place.

I took some easy ways too like Poison Clouding both Allant and Doran, almost shooting the first Maneater through fog (I ran out of arrows) and getting Flamelurker stuck on bones but I guess that's acceptable with SL 1 :lol: Out of the places mentioned I'd like to say that I find 4-2 easy nowadays - Soul Ray works wonders against the Gold Skeletons, Reapers are a joke (2 can be shot with a bow and 1 pushed off the cliff with one hit) and the blind boss is very easy if you have patience. I think 4-1 is way harder than 4-2 for SL 1.

I also played 1-1 in NG+ already. Died couple of times but they were only because I tried to rush too fast. Even Phalanx killed me once before I learned it's too risky to throw firebombs with so few HP :D Ended up running around and killing all Hoplites first. Actually it was the most enjoyable Phalanx fight I've ever had because it's the first with any danger.
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